Consistently Profitable Trader in Less Than a Year
I just recently got into this subreddit to browse and pretty sure this post will get roasted but here goes. I started learning forex using babypips around November 2019. Didn’t really take it seriously until I bought a few courses when COVID hit in March and really grinded and studied every day. On this subreddit, I see a lot of advice to not pay for a course because “you can learn it for free” or you can “YouTube” it. And while that may be true, there’s SO much information online, and a lot of it isn’t good. As a newbie or even long time trader, you can get overwhelmed with BS and the endless amount of indicators and strategies. To each their own, but I believe you’re gonna pay the markets your tuition for learning somehow: either through a mentocourse or just losing all your $$$ to the markets. I did babypips, and while that info was useful, I would say it’s definitely NOT enough to become profitable. In these past 6 months, I’ve lost and earned a lot. I can proudly say I consistently made 10k+ each month from July-Sept and it’s only going up from here. (I didn’t start with a 10k account either.) Im definitely in the green overall, passed and verified on an FTMO account, and been making around 3k+ each day these past few days (thank you volatility!). Psychology is the hardest to overcome, but it’s doable. To all the newbies and traders struggling out there, it’s possible to become consistently profitable, don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise. and F the people who don’t believe in you. But to be fair, you have to have a passion for trading and put in the work. You can’t go into this just for the money. I love analyzing the charts and trading now. It’s changed my life. If anyone has any questions, feel free to hit me up.
[Strategies] Here is My Trading Approach, Thought Process and Execution
Hello everyone. I've noticed a lot of us here are quite secretive about how we trade, especially when we comment on a fellow trader's post. We're quick to tell them what they're doing isn't the "right way" and they should go to babypips or YouTube. There's plenty of strategies we say but never really tell them what is working for us. There's a few others that are open to share their experience and thought processes when considering a valid trade. I have been quite open myself. But I'm always met with the same "well I see what you did is quite solid but what lead you to deem this trade valid for you? " The answer is quite simple, I have a few things that I consider which are easy rules to follow. I realized that the simpler you make it, the easier it is for you to trade and move on with your day. I highlight a few "valid" zones and go about my day. I've got an app that alerts me when price enters the zone on my watchlist. This is because I don't just rely on forex trading money, I doubt it would be wise to unless you're trading a 80% win rate strategy. Sometimes opportunities are there and we exploit them accordingly but sometimes we are either distracted by life issues and decide to not go into the markets stressed out or opportunities just aren't there or they are but your golden rules aren't quite met. My rules are pretty simple, one of the prime golden rules is, "the risk is supposed to be very minimal to the reward I want to yield from that specific trade". i.e I can risk -50 pips for a +150 and more pips gain. My usual target starts at 1:2 but my most satisfying trade would be a 1:3 and above. This way I can lose 6/10 trades and still be profitable. I make sure to keep my charts clean and simple so to understand what price does without the interference of indicators all over my charts. Not to say if you use indicators for confluence is a complete no-no. Each trader has their own style and I would be a narcissistic asshole if I assumed my way is superior than anybody else's. NB: I'm doing this for anybody who has a vague or no idea of supply and demand. Everything here has made me profitable or at least break even but doesn't guarantee the same for you. This is just a scratch on the surface so do all you can for due diligence when it comes to understanding this topic with more depth and clear comprehension. Supply and Demand valid zones properties; what to me makes me think "oh this zone has the potential to make me money, let me put it on my watchlist"? Mind when I say watchlist, not trade it. These are different in this sense. 👉With any zone, you're supposed to watch how price enters the zone, if there's a strong push in the opposite direction or whatever price action you're observing...only then does the zone becomes valid. YOU TRADE THE REACTION, NOT THE EXPECTATION Some setups just fail and that's okay because you didn't gamble. ✍ !!!IMPORTANT SUBJECT TO LEARN BEFORE YOU START SUPPLY AND DEMAND!!! FTR. Failure to Return.(Please read on these if you haven't. They are extremely important in SnD). Mostly occur after an impulse move from a turning point. See attached examples: RBR(rally base rally)/DBD(drop base drop). They comprise of an initial move to a certain direction, a single candle in the opposite direction and followed by 2 or more strong candles in the initial direction. The opposite candle is your FTR(This is your zone) The first time price comes back(FTB) to a zone with an FTR has high possibilities to be a strong zone. How to identify high quality zones according to my approach:
Engulfing zones; This is a personal favorite. For less errors I identify the best opportunities using the daily and 4H chart.
On the example given, I chose the GBPNZD trade idea I shared here a month ago I believe. A double bottom is easily identified, with the final push well defined Bullish Engulfing candle. To further solidify it are the strong wicks to show strong rejection and failure to close lower than the left shoulder. How we draw our zone is highlight the whole candle just before the Engulfing Candle. That's your zone. After drawing it, you also pay attention to the price that is right where the engulfing starts. You then set a price alert on your preferred app because usually price won't get there immediately. This is the second most important part of trading, PATIENCE. If you can be disciplined enough to not leave a limit order, or place a market order just because you trust your analysis...you've won half the battle because we're not market predictors, we're students. And we trade the reaction. On the given example, price had already reached the zone of interest. Price action observed was, there was a rejection that drove it out of the zone, this is the reaction we want. Soon as price returns(retests)...this is your time to fill or kill moment, going to a 4H or 1H to make minimum risk trades. (See GBPNZD Example 1&2)
Liquidity Run; This approach looks very similar to the Engulfing zones. The difference is, price makes a few rejections on a higher timeframe level(Resistance or support). This gives the novice trader an idea that we've established a strong support or resistance, leading to them either selling or buying given the opportunity. Price then breaks that level trapping the support and resistance trader. At this point, breakout traders have stop orders below or above these levels to anticipate a breakout at major levels with stops just below the levels. Now that the market has enough traders trapped, it goes for the stop losses above or below support and resistance levels after taking them out, price comes back into the level to take out breakout traders' stop losses. This is where it has gathered enough liquidity to move it's desired direction.
The given example on the NZDJPY shows a strong level established twice. With the Bearish Engulfing movement, price leaves a supply zone...that's where we come in. We go to smaller timeframes for a well defined entry with our stops above the recent High targeting the next demand zone. The second screenshot illustrates how high the reward of this approach is as well. Due diligence is required for this kind of approach because it's not uncommon but usually easily misinterpreted, which is why it's important it's on higher timeframes. You can back test and establish your own rules on this but the RSI in this case was used for confluence. It showed a strong divergence which made it an even easier trade to take. ...and last but definitely not least,
Double Bottom/Top. (I've used double bottoms on examples because these are the only trades I shared here so we'll talk about double bottoms. Same but opposite rules apply on double tops).
The first most important rule here is when you look to your left, price should have made a Low, High and a Lower Low. This way, the last leg(shoulder) should be lower than the first. Some call this "Hidden Zones". When drawing the zones, the top border of the zone is supposed to be on the tip of the Low and covering the Lower Low. **The top border is usually the entry point. On the first given example I shared this week, NZDCAD. After identifying the structure, you start to look for zones that could further verify the structure for confluence. Since this was identified on the 4H, when you zoom out to the daily chart...there's a very well defined demand zone (RBR). By now you should know how strong these kind of zones are especially if found on higher timeframes. That will now be your kill zone. You'll draw another zone within the bigger zone, if price doesn't close below it...you've got a trade. You'll put your stop losses outside the initial zone to avoid wicks(liquidity runs/stop hunts) On the second image you'll see how price closed within the zone and rallied upwards towards your targets. The second example is CHFJPY; although looking lower, there isn't a rally base rally that further solidifies our bias...price still respected the zone. Sometimes we just aren't going to get perfect setups but it is up to us to make calculated risks. In this case, risk is very minimal considering the potential profit. The third example (EURNZD) was featured because sometimes you just can't always get perfect price action within your desired zone. Which is why it's important to wait for price to close before actually taking a trade. Even if you entered prematurely and were taken out of the trade, the rules are still respected hence a re entry would still yield you more than what you would have lost although revenge trading is wrong. I hope you guys learnt something new and understand the thought process that leads to deciding which setups to trade from prepared supply and demand trade ideas. It's important to do your own research and back testing that matches your own trading style. I'm more of a swing trader hence I find my zones using the Daily and 4H chart. Keeping it simple and trading the reaction to your watched zone is the most important part about trading any strategy. Important Note: The trade ideas on this post are trades shared on this sub ever since my being active only because I don't want to share ideas that I may have carefully picked to make my trading approach a blind pick from the millions on the internet. All these were shared here. Here's a link to the trade ideas analyzed for this post specifically Questions are welcome on the comments section. Thank you for reading till here.
Someone posted on here a few days ago asking about forex and forex trading in Kenya, I have gone through the responses and clearly, most people don’t have an idea. It is 3am in the morning and am in a good mood so let me make this post. This will be a comprehensive and lengthy post so grab a pen and paper and sit down. We’ll be here a while. FIRST OF ALL, who am I..? I am a forex trader, in Nairobi, Kenya..i have been actively involved in forex since I found out about it in Feb 2016 when I somehow ended up in a wealth creation seminar (lol) in pride inn Westlands, the one close to Mpaka Rd. Luckily for me, it was not one of those AIM global meetings or I’d be on Facebook selling God knows what those guys sell. I did not take it seriously till August of the same year and I have been active ever since. I don’t teach, mentor or sell a course or signals, I trade my own money. I am also posting from a throwaway account because I don’t want KRA on my ass. What the fuck is forex and forex trading. In simple plain English, forex is like the stock market but for currencies. Stock Market = Shares, forex = currencies. If you want more in-depth explanation, google is your friend. These currencies are pegged on specific countries, united states- dollar, UK- pound, euro zone- euro, Switzerland- Swiss franc, Kenya- Kenya shilling.. you get the point. Now, there are specific events and happenings between these economies that affect the movement and values of the currencies, driving their value (purchasing power up and down). Forex trading exploits these movements to make money. When the value is going up, we buy and vice versa (down –sell) Is forex trading illegal in Kenya? Is it a scam? Illegal, no. scam, no. All the banks in the world do it (KCB made about 4 billion from trading forex in 2019) Have there been scams involving forex in Kenya? Yes. Here is one that happened recently. This one is the most infamous one yet. Best believe that this is not the end of these type of scams because the stupidity, greed and gullibility of human beings is unfathomable. However, by the end of this post, I hope you won’t fall for such silliness. What next how do I make it work..? Am glad you asked. Generally, there are two ways to go about it. One, you teach yourself. This is the equivalent of stealing our dad’s car and hoping that the pedal you hit is the brake and not the accelerator. It is the route I took, it is the most rewarding and a huge ego boost when you finally make it on your own. Typically, this involves scouring the internet for hours upon hours going down rabbit holes, thinking you have made it telling all your friends how you will be a millionaire then losing all your money. Some people do not have the stomach for that. The second route is more practical, structured and smarter. First Learn the basics. There is a free online forex course at www.babypips.com/learn/forex this is merely an introductory course. Basically it is learning the parts of a car before they let you inside the car. Second, start building your strategy. By the time you are done with the babypips, you will have a feel of what the forex market is, what interests you, etc. Tip..Babypips has a lot of garbage. It is good for introductory purposes but not good for much else, pick whatever stick to you or jumps at you the first time. Nonsense like indicators should be ignored. The next step is now the most important. Developing the skill and building your strategy. As a beginner, you want to exhaust your naivety before jumping into the more advanced stuff. Eg can you identify a trend, what is a pair, what is position sizing, what is metatrader 4 and how to operate it, what news is good for a currency, when can I trade, what are the different trading sessions, what is technical analysis, what is market sentiment, what are bullish conditions what is emotion management, how does my psychology affect my trading (more on this later) an I a swing, scalper or day trader etc Mentors and forex courses.. you have probably seen people advertising how they can teach and mentor you on how to trade forex and charging so much money for it. Somehow it seems that these people are focused on the teaching than the trading. Weird, right..? Truth is trading is hard, teaching not quite. A common saying in the industry is “Those who can’t trade, teach” you want to avoid all these gurus on Facebook and Instagram, some are legit but most are not. Sifting the wheat from the chaff is hard but I did that for you. The info is available online on YouTube, telegram channels etc. am not saying not to spend money on a course, if you find a mentor whose style resonates with you and the course is reasonably priced, please, go ahead and buy..it will cut your learning curve in half. People are different. What worked for me might not work for you. Here are some nice YouTube channels to watch. These guys are legit..
After a short period of time, you will be able to sniff out bs teachers with relative ease. You will also discover some of your own and expand the list. Two tips, start with the oldest videos first and whichever of these resonates with you, stick with till the wheels fall off. How long will it take until things start making sense Give yourself time to grow and learn. This is all new to you and you are allowed to make mistakes, to fail and discover yourself. Realistically, depending on the effort you put in, you will not start seeing results until after 6 months. Could take longeshorter so there is no guarantee. Social media, Mentality, Psychology and Books Online, forex trading might not have the best reputation online because it takes hard work and scammers and gurus give it a bad name. However, try to not get sucked into the Instagram trader lifestyle as it is nowhere close to what the reality is. You will not make millions tomorrow or the day after, you might never even make it in this market. But that is the reality of life. Nothing is promised, nothing is guaranteed. Your mentality, beliefs and ego will be challenged in this market. You will learn things that will make you blood boil, you will ask yourself daily, how is this possible, why don’t they teach this in school..bla bla bla..it will be hard but growth is painful, if it wasn’t we’d all be billionaires. Take a break, take a walk, drink a glass of whatever you like or roll one..detox. Chill with your girl (or man) Gradually you will develop mental toughness that will set you up for life. Personally, I sorta ditched religion and picked up stoicism. Whatever works for you. Psychology, this is unfortunately one of the most neglected aspects of your personal development in this journey. Do you believe in yourself? Can you stand by your convictions when everyone is against you? Can you get up every day uncertain of the future? There will be moments where you will question yourself, am I even doing the right thing? the right way? It is normal and essential for your growth. People who played competitive sports have a natural advantage here. Remember the game is first won in your head then on the pitch. Books: ironically, books that helped me the most were the mindset books, Think and grow rich, trading for a living, 4 hour work week, the monk who sold his Ferrari..just google mindset and psychology books, most trading books are garbage. Watch and listen to people who have made it in the investing business. Ray Dalio, warren, Bill Ackman and Carl Icahn. This is turning out to be lengthier than I anticipated so I’ll try to be brief for the remaining parts. Brokers You will need to open up an account with a broker. Get a broker who is regulated. Australian ones (IC Market and Pepperstone) are both legit, reliable and regulated. Do your research. I’d avoid local ones because I’ve heard stories of wide spreads and liquidity problems. International brokers have never failed me. There are plenty brokers, there is no one size fits all recommendation. If it ain’t broke..don’t fix it. Money transfer. All brokers accept wire transfers, you might need to call your bank to authorize that, avoid Equity bank. Stanchart and Stanbic are alright. Large withdrawals $10k+ you will have to call them prior. Get Skrill and Neteller if you don’t like banks like me, set up a Bitcoin wallet for faster withdrawals, (Payoneer and Paypal are accepted by some brokers, just check with them.) How much money can I make..? I hate this question because people have perceived ceilings of income in their minds, eg 1 million ksh is too much to make per month or 10,000ksh is too little. Instead, work backwards. What % return did I make this month/ on this trade. Safaricom made 19.5% last year, if you make 20% you have outperformed them. If you reach of consistency where you can make x% per month on whatever money you have, then there are no limits to how much you can make. How much money do I need to start with..? Zero. You have all the resources above, go forth. There are brokers who provide free bonuses and withdraw-able profits. However, to make a fulltime income you will need some serious cash. Generally, 50,000 kes. You can start lower or higher but if you need say 20k to live comfortably and that is a 10% return per month, then you can do the math on how big your account should be. Of course things like compound interest come into play but that is dependent on your skill level. I have seen people do spectacular things with very little funds. Taxes..? Talk to a lawyer or an accountant. I am neither. Family? Friends? Unfortunately, people will not understand why you spend hundreds of hours watching strangers on the internet so it is best to keep it from them. Eventually you will make it work and they will come to your corner talking about how they always knew you’d make it. The journey will be lonely, make some trading buddies along the way. You’d be surprised at how easy it is when people are united by their circumstances (and stupidity) I have guys who are my bros from South Africa and Lebanon who I have never met but we came up together and are now homies. Join forums, ask questions and grow. That is the only way to learn. Ideally, a group of 5-10 friends committed to learning and growth is the best model. Pushing each other to grow and discovering together. Forex is real and you can do amazing things with it. It is not a get rich quick scheme. If you want a quick guaranteed income, get a job. And now it is 5am, fuck. This is oversimplified and leaves out many many aspects. Happy to answer any questions.
Hi everyone. Some time ago I went through the babypips course, but traded pretty much casually on a virtual account. I recently picked up forex again, but decided that this time I'd try a more structured approach, like figuring out a strategy and sticking to it for a while (always virtual). So the first step seems deciding a time frame to trade. Since I don't want to check the charts multiple times a day, would it be reasonable to look at the 1 day chart in the morning and trade over the week? Or is it better over a month period? For the month I'm a bit worried about the fees. Of course I've yet to figure out which indicators work for me, etc, but I thought I'd figure out the time frame first. I'm not looking for quick money, but rather a way to invest some of my spare money with a more risky and hands on approach. Thanks in advance
https://preview.redd.it/zp7shgjo5dm51.png?width=2408&format=png&auto=webp&s=cd658da3cf5f10759c9fa56fd022b0176c8413ab After reading a lot about forex and strategies and babypips and playing with demo account etc etc for a month, started trading with real money since June manually. Initial capital $200 and then no more deposit, neither withdrawal. Performance was just so so except having caught a trend at the beginning (was just luck). Then stopped entirely and worked on a bot. First bot worked but low profit and wasn't designed to ride trends. Then started trading with 2nd bot this week. Now trading entirely with bot. So far I always start each trade with just 0.01 lot, don't wanna expose myself to too much risk. Not here to brag (although feel quite good indeed) but to ask for warnings and advices, because I am still quite new. Feel free to smash.
I've noticed that about 2,000 people have joined the Forex community in the recent weeks. Has anyone else noticed this? I suspect this is because of the lay offs due to the corona virus, and people are frantically looking for ways to supplement their incomes. While I'm glad that people are trying to better themselves and take control of their financial situations, I have to admit that the daily "newbie" questions are getting quite annoying. And it's not because there are new, inexperienced traders asking for help, but it's because the questions are more-less the same questions. I know there is a pinned "New Traders" section at the top of the thread, but it seems it isn't catching much traction. But first, to the new traders I'd first like to say: Welcome! This will be a tough journey, but it will pay in dividends (not literally). A couple tips before we start: FIRST, see the pinned New Traders section of Forex SECOND, go to babypips and take their FREE courses where you will learn the basics. I never did because I'm an idiot, and it took me many years of trial and error to succeed in this game. Don't be a lemon like me, go to babypips. Now my basics; Always have at least a 1:2 Risk:Reward. Simply put, risk at least $1 for $2. Always set a stop loss and take profit. In the beginning, I find it best to give new traders a black or white, go-or-no-go trading strategy. Trade mechanically. While discretionary trading is profitable, you need years of experience and time in the charts to be good at it. It could be something like, "I only trade low volatility break outs on the 4hr. Any candle below x ATR and I will enter via stop order at the high/low of that candle. My sl will be at the high/low of the entry candle, and I will look to make at least 2 reward on that trade. I will risk 1% per trade, even on demo, and I will trade in the direction of a 10 period moving average" This is a VERY crude strategy, one I just pulled out of my ass, so don't go using it and blowing your accounts! I recommend starting with 1 pair in the beginning, at MOST 3. And I recommend not swapping into different pairs. Keep those 1-3 pairs. Once babypips is completed, demo trade. Put time in the charts and develop a strategy (mechanically, preferably). Your strategy could be as complex or as simple as you like. Simplicity is genius in my opinion, but you do you. I'm not trying to sound like an ass, but everything you really needed to learn you learned from babypips. With that said, DO NOT pay for courses from ANYONE. They will often know the same as you, if not less. In my opinion to be really great in this game you don't need a lot of information., and capitalize on every opportunity. You just need to be really good at one style and max that the hell out. For instance, being really good at low volatility breakouts, and having a system based off that. No amount of schooling (high school, college, or courses via Forex gurus) will make you successful. It's one thing to know a strategy, but to implement it in real time with real consequences is daunting. The only way to conquer this is to simply do it. Trade. Trade with an amount of money you can emotionally and financially afford to lose! I would even recommend starting a live account with $50 and only trading micro lots (0.01) until you become comfortable and your strategy proves successful. This is AFTER demo trading your strategy. Master yourself before you master the markets. Work out. Feed your brain. Get enough sleep. The money you make or lose isn't worth your health. Psychology. In my opinion the best psychology you can have while trading is a form of stoicism. You've placed your trade based off your strategy, you managed your trade based off your strategy, and you risked an amount you've told yourself you were comfortable losing with an account you told yourself you were comfortable blowing, so what's the worry? Why the second guessing? Everyone's heard that story, right? Where a man goes to a successful "guru" and says he wants to be successful. The guru says, "Ok. Show up at the beach this time tomorrow." The man shows up at the beach in a suit and tie, ready for success! The guru tells him to get in the water. Once in, the guru holds the mans head under the water, drowning him. At the last second the guru lets him up and says, "once you want success as much you wanted to breathe, you'll be successful. That's what you need to be like. You need to be willing to do what is necessary and put in the work. It's not easy. You're going to lose money, maybe even blow accounts. You may struggle for years without a return, or even lose money over that time. How bad do you want it success, though? And are you willing to drown to attain it? Best of luck new traders! Experienced traders, please feel free to add things or tell me I'm a goof in the comments.
Become a financial investor with £300 and make £50 for doing nothing
Good Day! If you are looking for a quick easy way to earn £50 in commission then you are in the right place. Wether you're a student, full-time/part time worker or unemployed you can do this easily in 30 minutes or less. Many people are promoting forex programmes that only benefit themselves and probably offer you a book that explains nothing nothing more than you can learn on babypips.com I offer an educational group on an app called telegram (You can download it off the App Store, Android store or windows store.) And we can help you become traders not by selling worthless signals but by teaching you how to trade independently, a lifetime service for free. Now all this sounds too good to be true right? And what about that '£50 commission you told me about?' Well I work with a brokerage that when I get signed up and you trade with them I earn commission, For you doing so I am willing to give back to my team £50 via PayPal, Skrill or BTC, whatever floats your boat as a way of saying, Since you helped me, i'll help you. Plus I am offering you another investment opportunity in yourself, The way I think about trading on the financial markets is not a 'Get rich quick' scheme, or a 100% Guaranteed profit making strategy. I Just like many other traders have had bad weeks/months on the markets but the way to overcome it is to manage your risk and to make sure your bad weeks or months are nothing compared to your good ones. If you invest £1000 into a savings account and leave it there on say your 0.01% interest rate for a year you now have £1010. Congratulations you bank has now done for you what you could do in a week easily. You can open a trade on the lowest risk possible and make that if you find the right swing in the market, which with the right guidance and mindset and experiment, is not all too hard to do. Depositing with a broker is like depositing into a bank account. I can 100% guarantee there will be someone reading this thinking this is a scam, they are just going tot take your money and run. Be assured that I never see your money, when you hand over money to deposit cash into your bank account do you see your cashier take it and put it in their wallet/purse and then it not show up into your account? You are simply depositing money into your own account that only you will have access too and it is there for you to do what you would like with, you can be risky and trade big though I wouldn't recommend this, if you want to though I think you shout find the swing that would work the best for it, find every confirmation possible and enter where there is lowest risk to your account. But for most traders actually wanting to make a steady investment on their capital they can trade low risk, find the swings exactly how I just mentioned and grow your account bit by bit. As I said previously we offer training in the markets and this is exactly what we are trying to achieve. We don't charge a monthly service fee unlike most in this line of work, instead we actually make our living trading and use the commission from the broker as a service charge, basically like a tip to our weekly profits we use for leisure or to take the Mrs out for dinner :) If you are interested or have any questions drop a message to either me privately or if you think it is beneficial to everyone reading then add it to the bottom of this thread. We are more than happy to speak to you over telegram 1-1 and if you need to you can voice call over the app too. However you must be 18+ have some sort of ID and credit/debit card to sign up with the broker. ** If you are unsure when signing up with the broker you can research them/call them whatever you like. We only work with brokers that are registered under the FCA (Financial Conduct Authority)
Reality check for newbie roadmap with algo trading
Hey guys, I'm planning to start trading on forex in the next few months. Right now I'm doing babypips :) I've got some ideas/long term plans on how I want my trading journey to look like and I'd really appreciate reality check if it's plausible to achieve. First some background. I'm a software dev and I'm doing really ok for myself, I've been able to put aside some money that if lost or spent it won't affect anything, retirement, personal savings, vacations, travel and all other budgets are all separate from it. Roadmap:
Open demo account and trade for around 6-12 months to get a hang of it - the goal is to create a trading strategy
Open a live account and try to not blow it for the next 12 months - the goal is to break even, tweak and adjust the strategy
Be profitable after 24 months on the market - the goal is to achieve 1%-6% monthly returns
Create algo system as a helper - this is the final chapter, reflect my strategy the best I can in automatic system. What'd be left is to tweak and configure it on a weekly basis into the future.
This is my dream scenario, long term plan and direction to follow. I'm making no assumptions on anything, I know it might take 3 or 4 times longer or not work at all. Right now I don't know what I don't know and wanted to clash my imaginations with reality how this journey might look like before I start committing countless hours to this. I want to give myself enough time to be successful with this plan, even if it'll take a decade or more. Some explanation on the algo. I'm not looking for silver bullet that'll crack the market and make me rich. I'm wishing to build a system that will be an extension (like another limb) to my body and mind to anything that can be automated in trading, something that constantly has to be improved and adjusted with the changing market. I just want it to reflect a strategy that I'd already apply manually. The end goal (many years into the future) is to acquire enough account size to be able to quit my day job and live comfortably from mostly automated trading. What are your thoughts on this roadmap? Is this a reasonable plan to follow? Is it possible to achieve something like a constant 2%-5% monthly returns with algo trading and putting max 8 hours in a week for maintenance and tweaking?
Reality check for newbie roadmap with algo trading
Hey guys, I'm planning to start trading on forex in the next few months. Right now I'm doing babypips :) I've got some ideas/long term plans on how I want my trading journey to look like and I'd really appreciate reality check if it's plausible to achieve. First some background. I'm a software dev and I'm doing really ok for myself, I've been able to put aside some money that if lost or spent it won't affect anything, retirement, personal savings, vacations, travel and all other budgets are all separate from it. Roadmap:
Open demo account and trade for around 6-12 months to get a hang of it - the goal is to create a trading strategy
Open a live account and try to not blow it for the next 12 months - the goal is to break even, tweak and adjust the strategy
Be profitable after 24 months on the market - the goal is to achieve 1%-6% monthly returns
Create algo system as a helper - this is the final chapter, reflect my strategy the best I can in an automatic system. What'd be left is to tweak and configure it on a weekly basis into the future.
This is my dream scenario, long term plan and direction to follow. I'm making no assumptions on anything, I know it might take 3 or 4 times longer or not work at all. Right now I don't know what I don't know and wanted to clash my imaginations with reality how this journey might look like before I start committing countless hours to this. I want to give myself enough time to be successful with this plan, even if it'll take a decade or more. Some explanation on the algo. I'm not looking for a silver bullet that'll crack the market and make me rich. I'm wishing to build a system that will be an extension (like another limb) to my body and mind to anything that can be automated in trading, something that constantly has to be improved and adjusted with the changing market. I just want it to reflect a strategy that I'd already apply manually. The end goal (many years into the future) is to acquire enough account size to be able to quit my day job and live comfortably from mostly automated trading. What are your thoughts on this roadmap? Is this a reasonable plan to follow? Is it possible to achieve something like a constant 2%-5% monthly returns with algo trading and putting max 8 hours in a week for maintenance and tweaking? Maybe some of you are already living the dream I've just described here?
Hi there. so first off a little background information, I am currently 16 years old and I got into forex trading about 6 to 7 months ago. I've spent the past few months doing the babypips course as well as taking online lessons to learn things such as harmonic patterns, support & resistance, using fibs and stuff like that. Along with this, I've been trading on a demo account with pepperstone to see what kinds of strategies work for me, which is mostly scalping as well as trading on the 15m tf. But here lies my problem. I want to move on to a live account, which, as recommended, obviously means I'm going to need a strategy. I've experimented and tried to find what works for me and I've understood very well what environment and timeframe I like to trade on, but I'm unsure how to form a strategy which I can follow and play by. I've tried multiple strategies such as the 3EMA(8,13,21) strategy on the 15m tf as well as strategies based on indicators, but nothing seems to work. Everything I try works for about 2 to 3 days, but eventually turns around really really fast. I was wondering if anyone could help me or give me tips on how to, or rather, the steps to building my own strategy. I decided to come here as I browse this subreddit a-lot and I've met and seen some of the nicest and most humble people here, hence coming here and not going to some baby pips forum. Any help is appreciated, thanks so much if anyone replies!!! EDIT : Hey guys so I have in fact gotten the advice I was seeking for, and like I mentioned below, I was practicing S/R over the weekend and tried planning ahead for this once, these are my profits for today with only half the knowledge as well as half the time due to school as well as no strategy. So I'd say pretty good returns on a 200$ demo account with 1:500 leverage who gets barely any time to trade....and is testing a strategy. Anyways, thank you so much to those who responded and helped out!!!!
Open letter to those who believe we can learn to be profitable traders for free. I have some points I think I need answered in this theory. Before I go further; I do not sell Forex education, do not know anyone I'd recommend and have no inputs what-so-ever on who would be good to pay to learn. This is not an advert, it just objective. We'll start by entertaining this notion that we can all learn for free (and we'll ignore the inconvenient fact that almost no one actually makes money even though this free stuff is there for all). So let's warp into a m alternative reality where most people can easily make money in Forex if they just read the free education. Put aside 100 hours, and you're set. All that's left now is picking out the colour of your jet. How does the market work? Oh ... that's right. Buyers and sellers. What happens when everyone know the same stuff and that same stuff is actually correct? Everyone takes the exact same trades. Seems legit, but wait a second ... who takes the other side of the trade? This is a problem, since we'd have to assume if everyone could learn for free, then everyone would and therefore the markets would reach a nash equilibrium. Like playing knots and crosses when both of you know optimum strategy, there is no way anyone can win or lose. So, if in theory we could all win with free education, we'd accelerate towards a point where no one can win. Seems legit. What would happen, in this magical world where we all know the right thing to do and no one has any edge at all? Would it be possible that there'd be some groups of large entities like banks that were able to notice everyone was doing the exact same thing? Do you think they will do the same thing when they know no one can win doing that? Does this seem logical? it's not logical. What is logical is they will trade against these positions. How would that happen? Position Clusters In the above example we've all learned from our Babypips where to buy. Everyone knows this. So everyone does it. Price will start to move up. So if a bigger player wanted to profit here, they'd find it harder to get the price they want (or they'd get it first, meaning none of us get the price we want which also fucks the entire theory). They can do better just trading against you. It really is simple, because everyone has already laid out their easy take profit area. They can sell when all the mass positions start to push the market up and they can then dump this position into your stops. Stop Grab Does this look like something actively happening in the markets day to day (Uh huh). How long do you think it would take for everyone using free same free stuff available (and the same free indicators in the same free trading platforms) before what the people using this free stuff do becomes stupidly predictable? How long after this do you think it would become useless because larger entities traded against these positions? Finally ... how long has there been free education for all. Are you getting the picture here? Parts of free education are useful. In the same way that learning about words and punctuation is useful to a person who'd want to write a book. However, what the free education theory is more akin to is all of us going out and copy/pasting the Harry Potter books and all of us selling as many as JK herself. Again, seems legit. We can all do exactly the same thing, but somehow (from who knows where) wee still find the same volume of people to be on the consumer end. I mean, they have their own Harry Potter books too, but they still go out and buy them .... from everyone. Does any of this sound logical? So my question is, for those who promote this idea, how does it work? Can you explain to me using the dynamics of how the market has to work (not just saying pointless things like "if you have to pay it's a scam") how it would be possible for us all to learn for free and then continue to profit from that?
Personally, i think this is pure genius! I love it, it's an amazing way to brush up on your chart skills and it's actually pretty cool to see how things went. It throws a random chart at you and you have to day trade it, it'll tell you how you did versus a buy & hold strategy and... well it's just really really good!
Technical & fundamental news on currencies.I would advise newer traders not to trade solely on external opinions because that won't cement your own methodology or reasons for trading.Excellent website for if you want an overview of the markets and daily reports. Also includes a trading journal and a lot of media attention.
This is absolutely amazing! I can't put a value on this! It's one of the best gems of the internet. Podcasts interviewing successful traders, some are notable such as 50pips, Walter Peters & Chris Kapre.
One of the best free online schools which tracks your progress and teaches you heaps on information. The forum is the gem, where many people keep trade journals and put up their strategies. Don't copy them but borrowing concepts and ideas is good.
There's a lot of information out there, it's overwhelming. You might think "Where the hell do I start?!" well here's your answer! The books you have to read... and in what order! Super important for beginners.
SUPER IMPORTANT This website is paramount to your success, still in development but will provide users with an easy way to document trades. Success is determined by your willingness to follow through with the boring bits so keep this one in your bookmarks.
Hi all.. I currently invest in stocks and trade options. I found that time, education, tracking and patience are key. I'm interested in learning to trade forex and am going through babypips stuff now but curious about more specific strategy. I've paid for a few stock/options classes over the years and found even some of the cheapest simple strategies work well if you actually follow a plan and have friends who paid for large expensive programs that they were overwhelmed in and didn't do as well. So is it worth it to pay for strategies or just trial and error? Everyone out here trying to sell you BS is annoying. Just looking for legit thoughts from people with experience in this realm. Kind regards!
Hi guys, I am relatively new here, only joined in the last year or so and I have found you to be really usefull and I love learning as much as I possibly can. I was mainly interested in stock investing but Forex has appealed to me more and more over the last few months. For the first time I'm going to ask you guys for a little bit of advice, anything at all is really appreciated. (I have been doing the BabyPips courses as well as reading here religiously to learn as much as I can.) I have learned a decent amount of technical analysis from learning about stocks, so I might pair this with fundamental analysis as my basis. I have access to some mainstream financial information platforms (Bloomberg terminal, Reuters). I am doing a M.Sc. in Finance and as we have just been offered to compete in a student Forex trading competition with the prizes being some internships in one of the biggest banks in the country. I know I realistically wont win but I want to give it my best shot and I'm really willing to work for it. So here are some of the details: - We have $25,000,000 to trade over the coming 5 weeks. (No leverage). - You can trade as much as you want, no limits on what pairs to trade etc. Would you more experienced traders have any advice for me on maybe strategies or pairs I should mainly stick to? How much profit should I expect on a trade as a really rough guide? What sort of Risk:Reward is common in Forex? How much should I trade in one go, does one lot (100,000) seem appropriate? Are there any interesting indiators I could check out? Sorry for the long post, I just really have a honest passion for trading and investing and I love learning about it and hearing what more experienced people have to say, thanks for an amazing subreddit!!
How to get started in Forex - A comprehensive guide for newbies
Almost every day people come to this subreddit asking the same basic questions over and over again. I've put this guide together to point you in the right direction and help you get started on your forex journey. A quick background on me before you ask: My name is Bob, I'm based out of western Canada. I started my forex journey back in January 2018 and am still learning. However I am trading live, not on demo accounts. I also code my own EA's. I not certified, licensed, insured, or even remotely qualified as a professional in the finance industry. Nothing I say constitutes financial advice. Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt, but everything I've outlined below is a synopsis of some tough lessons I've learned over the last year of being in this business. LET'S GET SOME UNPLEASANTNESS OUT OF THE WAY I'm going to call you stupid. I'm also going to call you dumb. I'm going to call you many other things. I do this because odds are, you are stupid, foolish,and just asking to have your money taken away. Welcome to the 95% of retail traders. Perhaps uneducated or uninformed are better phrases, but I've never been a big proponent of being politically correct. Want to get out of the 95% and join the 5% of us who actually make money doing this? Put your grown up pants on, buck up, and don't give me any of this pc "This is hurting my feelings so I'm not going to listen to you" bullshit that the world has been moving towards. Let's rip the bandage off quickly on this point - the world does not give a fuck about you. At one point maybe it did, it was this amazing vision nicknamed the American Dream. It died an agonizing, horrible death at the hand of capitalists and entrepreneurs. The world today revolves around money. Your money, my money, everybody's money. People want to take your money to add it to theirs. They don't give a fuck if it forces you out on the street and your family has to live in cardboard box. The world just stopped caring in general. It sucks, but it's the way the world works now. Welcome to the new world order. It's called Capitalism. And here comes the next hard truth that you will need to accept - Forex is a cruel bitch of a mistress. She will hurt you. She will torment you. She will give you nightmares. She will keep you awake at night. And then she will tease you with a glimmer of hope to lure you into a false sense of security before she then guts you like a fish and shows you what your insides look like. This statement applies to all trading markets - they are cruel, ruthless, and not for the weak minded. The sooner you accept these truths, the sooner you will become profitable. Don't accept it? That's fine. Don't bother reading any further. If I've offended you I don't give a fuck. You can run back home and hide under your bed. The world doesn't care and neither do I. For what it's worth - I am not normally an major condescending asshole like the above paragraphs would suggest. In fact, if you look through my posts on this subreddit you will see I am actually quite helpful most of the time to many people who come here. But I need you to really understand that Forex is not for most people. It will make you cry. And if the markets themselves don't do it, the people in the markets will. LESSON 1 - LEARN THE BASICS Save yourself and everybody here a bunch of time - learn the basics of forex. You can learn the basics for free - BabyPips has one of the best free courses online which explains what exactly forex is, how it works, different strategies and methods of how to approach trading, and many other amazing topics. You can access the BabyPips course by clicking this link: https://www.babypips.com/learn/forex Do EVERY course in the School of Pipsology. It's free, it's comprehensive, and it will save you from a lot of trouble. It also has the added benefit of preventing you from looking foolish and uneducated when you come here asking for help if you already know this stuff. If you still have questions about how forex works, please see the FREE RESOURCES links on the /Forex FAQ which can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/Forex/wiki/index Quiz Time Answer these questions truthfully to yourself: -What is the difference between a market order, a stop order, and a limit order? -How do you draw a support/resistance line? (Demonstrate it to yourself) -What is the difference between MACD, RSI, and Stochastic indicators? -What is fundamental analysis and how does it differ from technical analysis and price action trading? -True or False: It's better to have a broker who gives you 500:1 margin instead of 50:1 margin. Be able to justify your reasoning. If you don't know to answer to any of these questions, then you aren't ready to move on. Go back to the School of Pipsology linked above and do it all again. If you can answer these questions without having to refer to any kind of reference then congratulations, you are ready to move past being a forex newbie and are ready to dive into the wonderful world of currency trading! Move onto Lesson 2 below. LESSON 2 - RANDOM STRANGERS ARE NOT GOING TO HELP YOU GET RICH IN FOREX This may come as a bit of a shock to you, but that random stranger on instagram who is posting about how he is killing it on forex is not trying to insprire you to greatness. He's also not trying to help you. He's also not trying to teach you how to attain financial freedom. 99.99999% of people posting about wanting to help you become rich in forex are LYING TO YOU. Why would such nice, polite people do such a thing? Because THEY ARE TRYING TO PROFIT FROM YOUR STUPIDITY. Plain and simple. Here's just a few ways these "experts" and "gurus" profit from you:
Referral Links - If they require you to click a specific link to signup for something, it means they are an affiliate. They get a commission from whatever the third party is that they are sending you to. I don't care if it's a brokerage, training program, hell even an Amazon link to a book - if they insist you have to click their super exclusive, can't-get-this-deal-any-other-way-but-clicking-my-link type bullshit, it's an affiliate link. There is nothing inherently wrong with affiliate programs, but you are literally generating money for some stranger because they convinced you to buy something. Some brokers such as ICMarkets have affiliate programs that payout a percentage of the commission you generate - this is a really clever system - whether you profit or blow your entire account, the person who referred you to the broker makes a profit off you. Clever eh?
Signal Services, Education & Training Programs, Courses - If somebody is telling you they are making a killing with a signal service and are trying to convince you to join it, I guarantee they are getting a piece of your monthly fee. And better still, these signal services often work...for about a week. Just long enough to suck a bunch of poor fools into it. You see people making money, you want in so you agree to pay the $200+/month subscription fee. You follow the signals and it looks like it's making money for a few days or weeks. Then it turns sideways, you start losing money hand over fist. Pretty soon you have lost most of your trading account because you blindly followed a signal service. And better still - when you go screaming at the person running the signal service they will be very quick to point you to their No Refunds policy. To add insult to injury, the buttfucker that referred you to the signal service in the past will likely listen to you getting mad, and then come back with something like "Sorry it didn't work out, but I just joined this other amazing service and it's working great, you should come join it to earn your money back. Here's my link..." You get the point here right?
Multi-Level Marketing (MLMs) - These people are scum. They are going to offer you training and education, signals, access to forex experts and gurus, and all kinds of other shit with the promise that you will live the dream and become financially free. They are also loading you into a pyrmaid scheme where you will be hounded to recruit other people and make money off them just like you got roped into it. A really prime example here is iMarkets Live (or IML for short). Don't touch this shit with a 10 foot pole. I don't care what they are claiming, you will lose everything using them.
Fund Managers - These people make my skin crawl. It's a classic scam and it works like this - somebody will post online about how much money they are making trading forex/commodities/stocks/whatever. Most of the time they won't explicitly post they are offering a trading service, rather they just put the message out there and wait for the ignorant masses (that's you) to contact them. They will charm you. They will lie to you. They will promise you the moon if you simply wire them some money or give them API access to your trading account. Care to guess what happens next? If you send a wire transfer (or Western Union...hell any kind of payment to them) they will vanish. Happens usually after they take a bunch of suckers for the ride. You sent them $2,000 and so do 9 other suckers. They just made $20,000 and are gone. With API access to your account, you will find your account gets blown super fast or worse - possibly leaving you open to persecution by the broker you are using.
These are just a few examples. The reality is that very few people make it big in forex or any kind of trading. If somebody is trying to sell you the dream, they are essentially a magician - making you look the other way while they snatch your wallet and clean you out. Additionally, on the topic of fund managers - legitimate fund managers will be certified, licensed, and insured. Ask them for proof of those 3 things. What they typically look like are:
Certified - This varies from country to country, in the US it's FINRA (http://www.finra.org). They need to have their Series 7 certification minimum. You can make the case that other FINRA certifications are acceptable in lieu of Series 7, but the 7 is the gold standard.
Licensed - They need to have a valid business license issued by the government. It must clearly state they are an investment company, preferrably a hedge fund because they have some super strict requirements to operate (and often require $25,000+ in fees just to get their business license, so you know they at least have some skin in the game).
Insured - They need to be backed by an insurance company. I'm not talking general insurance for shit like their office burning down. I'm talking about a government-implemented protection insurance program - in the US I believe that is issued by the Securities Investment Protection Corporation (https://www.sipc.org/).
If you are talking to a fund manager and they are insisting they have all of these, get a copy of their verification documents and lookup their licenses on the directories of the issuers to verify they are valid. If they are, then at least you are talking to somebody who seems to have their shit together and is doing investment management and trading as a professional and you are at least partially protected when the shit hits the fan. LESSON 3 - UNDERSTAND YOUR RISK Many people jump into Forex, drop $2000 into a broker account and start trading 1 lot orders because they signed up with a broker thinking they will get rich because they were given 500:1 margin and can risk it all on each trade. Worst-case scenario you lose your account, best case scenario you become a millionaire very quickly. Seems like a pretty good gamble right? You are dead wrong. As a new trader, you should never risk more than 1% of your account balance on a trade. If you have some experience and are confident and doing well, then it's perfectly natural to risk 2-3% of your account per trade. Anybody who risks more than 4-5% of their account on a single trade deserves to blow their account. At that point you aren't trading, you are gambling. Don't pretend you are a trader when really you are just putting everything on red and hoping the roulette ball lands in the right spot. It's stupid and reckless and going to screw you very quickly. Let's do some math here: You put $2,000 into your trading account. Risking 1% means you are willing to lose $20 per trade. That means you are going to be trading micro lots, or 0.01 lots most likely ($0.10/pip). At that level you can have a trade stop loss at -200 pips and only lose $20. It's the best starting point for anybody. Additionally, if you SL 20 trades in a row you are only down $200 (or 10% of your account) which isn't that difficult to recover from. Risking 3% means you are willing to lose $60 per trade. You could do mini lots at this point, which is 0.1 lots (or $1/pip). Let's say you SL on 20 trades in a row. You've just lost $1,200 or 60% of your account. Even veteran traders will go through periods of repeat SL'ing, you are not a special snowflake and are not immune to periods of major drawdown. Risking 5% means you are willing to lose $100 per trade. SL 20 trades in a row, your account is blown. As Red Foreman would call it - Good job dumbass. Never risk more than 1% of your account on any trade until you can show that you are either consistently breaking even or making a profit. By consistently, I mean 200 trades minimum. You do 200 trades over a period of time and either break-even or make a profit, then you should be alright to increase your risk. Unfortunately, this is where many retail traders get greedy and blow it. They will do 10 trades and hit their profit target on 9 of them. They will start seeing huge piles of money in their future and get greedy. They will start taking more risk on their trades than their account can handle. 200 trades of break-even or profitable performance risking 1% per trade. Don't even think about increasing your risk tolerance until you do it. When you get to this point, increase you risk to 2%. Do 1,000 trades at this level and show break-even or profit. If you blow your account, go back down to 1% until you can figure out what the hell you did differently or wrong, fix your strategy, and try again. Once you clear 1,000 trades at 2%, it's really up to you if you want to increase your risk. I don't recommend it. Even 2% is bordering on gambling to be honest. LESSON 4 - THE 500 PIP DRAWDOWN RULE This is a rule I created for myself and it's a great way to help protect your account from blowing. Sometimes the market goes insane. Like really insane. Insane to the point that your broker can't keep up and they can't hold your orders to the SL and TP levels you specified. They will try, but during a flash crash like we had at the start of January 2019 the rules can sometimes go flying out the window on account of the trading servers being unable to keep up with all the shit that's hitting the fan. Because of this I live by a rule I call the 500 Pip Drawdown Rule and it's really quite simple - Have enough funds in your account to cover a 500 pip drawdown on your largest open trade. I don't care if you set a SL of -50 pips. During a flash crash that shit sometimes just breaks. So let's use an example - you open a 0.1 lot short order on USDCAD and set the SL to 50 pips (so you'd only lose $50 if you hit stoploss). An hour later Trump makes some absurd announcement which causes a massive fundamental event on the market. A flash crash happens and over the course of the next few minutes USDCAD spikes up 500 pips, your broker is struggling to keep shit under control and your order slips through the cracks. By the time your broker is able to clear the backlog of orders and activity, your order closes out at 500 pips in the red. You just lost $500 when you intended initially to only risk $50. It gets kinda scary if you are dealing with whole lot orders. A single order with a 500 pip drawdown is $5,000 gone in an instant. That will decimate many trader accounts. Remember my statements above about Forex being a cruel bitch of a mistress? I wasn't kidding. Granted - the above scenario is very rare to actually happen. But glitches to happen from time to time. Broker servers go offline. Weird shit happens which sets off a fundamental shift. Lots of stuff can break your account very quickly if you aren't using proper risk management. LESSON 5 - UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT TRADING METHODOLOGIES Generally speaking, there are 3 trading methodologies that traders employ. It's important to figure out what method you intend to use before asking for help. Each has their pros and cons, and you can combine them in a somewhat hybrid methodology but that introduces challenges as well. In a nutshell:
Price Action Trading (Sometimes called Naked Trading) is very effective at identifying when trends will start and finish. This gives you the advantage of staying ahead of the market and predicting when a change in trend direction will occur. It has the disadvantage of being really easy to screw it up if you don't plot your support and resistance lines properly and interpret the chart wrong. Because you can identify a change in trend direction, you'll generally make more profit on a new trend than a technical strategy will.
Technical Analytics (or TA) uses math and statistics to try and identify where the market is headed or confirm/reject whether a trend is happening. It has the advantage of being very math and stat driven which is hard to refute the numbers, but it has the disadvantage of being late to the party when it comes to identifying trends (hence why people call TA a lagging strategy). When people fail using TA, it's not because of the math - it's because you misinterpreted what the math is telling you.
Fundamental Analysis (or FA) uses news and macro scale events to predict what is going on. A really good example right now is Brexit, what a clusterfuck that is. Every time some major brexit news breaks it causes all sorts of choas in almost every currency pair. Fundamental trading has the highest potential profitability per trade but it also has the highest potential drawdown per trade.
Now you may be thinking that you want to be a a price action trader - you should still learn the principles and concepts behind TA and FA. Same if you are planning to be a technical trader - you should learn about price action and fundamental analysis. More knowledge is better, always. With regards to technical analysis, you need to really understand what the different indicators are tell you. It's very easy to misinterpret what an indicator is telling you, which causes you to make a bad trade and lose money. It's also important to understand that every indicator can be tuned to your personal preferences. You might find, for example, that using Bollinger Bands with the normal 20 period SMA close, 2 standard deviation is not effective for how you look at the chart, but changing that to say a 20 period EMA average price, 1 standard deviation bollinger band indicator could give you significantly more insight. LESSON 6 - TIMEFRAMES MATTER Understanding the differences in which timeframes you trade on will make or break your chosen strategy. Some strategies work really well on Daily timeframes (i.e. Ichimoku) but they fall flat on their face if you use them on 1H timeframes, for example. There is no right or wrong answer on what timeframe is best to trade on. Generally speaking however, there are 2 things to consider:
Speed - If you are scalping (trading on the really fast candles like 1M, 5M, 15M, etc) odds are your trades are very short lived. Maybe 10 minutes to an hour tops. For the most part, scalping strategies will produce little profit per trade but make up for it in the sheer volume of trades. Whereas swing trading may only make a few trades but each one could be worth a significant amount of money.
Spread (the fee you pay to the broker when you trade) - If you are a scalper, the spread is your worst enemy because you have to overcome it very fast to make a profit on your order. Whereas swing trading the spread hardly impacts you at all.
If you are a total newbie to forex, I suggest you don't trade on anything shorter than the 1H timeframe when you are first learning. Trading on higher timeframes tends to be much more forgiving and profitable per trade. Scalping is a delicate art and requires finesse and can be very challenging when you are first starting out. LESSON 7 - AUTOBOTS...ROLL OUT! Yeah...I'm a geek and grew up with the Transformers franchise decades before Michael Bay came along. Deal with it. Forex bots are called EA's (Expert Advisors). They can be wonderous and devastating at the same time. /Forex is not really the best place to get help with them. That is what /algotrading is useful for. However some of us that lurk on /Forex code EA's and will try to assist when we can. Anybody can learn to code an EA. But just like how 95% of retail traders fail, I would estimate the same is true for forex bots. Either the strategy doesn't work, the code is buggy, or many other reasons can cause EA's to fail. Because EA's can often times run up hundreds of orders in a very quick period of time, it's critical that you test them repeatedly before letting them lose on a live trading account so they don't blow your account to pieces. You have been warned. If you want to learn how to code an EA, I suggest you start with MQL. It's a programming language which can be directly interpretted by Meta Trader. The Meta Trader terminal client even gives you a built in IDE for coding EA's in MQL. The downside is it can be buggy and glitchy and caused many frustrating hours of work to figure out what is wrong. If you don't want to learn MQL, you can code an EA up in just about any programming language. Python is really popular for forex bots for some reason. But that doesn't mean you couldn't do it in something like C++ or Java or hell even something more unusual like JQuery if you really wanted. I'm not going to get into the finer details of how to code EA's, there are some amazing guides out there. Just be careful with them. They can be your best friend and at the same time also your worst enemy when it comes to forex. One final note on EA's - don't buy them. Ever. Let me put this into perspective - I create an EA which is literally producing money for me automatically 24/5. If it really is a good EA which is profitable, there is no way in hell I'm selling it. I'm keeping it to myself to make a fortune off of. EA's that are for sale will not work, will blow your account, and the developer who coded it will tell you that's too darn bad but no refunds. Don't ever buy an EA from anybody. LESSON 8 - BRING ON THE HATERS You are going to find that this subreddit is frequented by trolls. Some of them will get really nasty. Some of them will threaten you. Some of them will just make you miserable. It's the price you pay for admission to the /Forex club. If you can't handle it, then I suggest you don't post here. Find a more newbie-friendly site. It sucks, but it's reality. We often refer to trolls on this subreddit as shitcunts. That's your word of the day. Learn it, love it. Shitcunts. YOU MADE IT, WELCOME TO FOREX! If you've made it through all of the above and aren't cringing or getting scared, then welcome aboard the forex train! You will fit in nicely here. Ask your questions and the non-shitcunts of our little corner of reddit will try to help you. Assuming this post doesn't get nuked and I don't get banned for it, I'll add more lessons to this post over time. Lessons I intend to add in the future:
Why you will blow your first account and what to do when it happens
Trading Psychology (this will be a beefy one and will take a while to put together)
Exotics vs Majors and which you should focus on as a newbie (aka how to blow your account in a single trade with exotics)
Last week I got laid off from my job (which I kind of engineered, to be honest) and I have bee interested in forex since November. I have been lurking on this sub since then and have gained a good amount of value from the posters and recommendations I have found. Right now, I'm working my way through babypips course, I'm on the undergraduate section. Unemployment pays me enough to cover all my living expenses as long as I don't do something stupid, and I have $6k saved up from last year to trade with when I am ready. No debt, and I can collect for 6 months max, after which time I must be profitable to not have to go back to working construction (I am a plumber by trade). I must be able to clear about $3k per month after taxes in order to live an acceptable lifestyle. I feel optimistic because this week I have replenished my Metatrader simulation account back to 10k, where I started. When I was just learning and practicing, I was down to 6k, which was a month ago. This is the first week I have been able to trade full time, and already I see many opportunities and systems I can create. I mostly like to trade trends, with some breakouts in specific cases, like news events. I plan to go live when my practice account is at 20k, and I have polished my trading strategies. Of course, I will repeat the babypips course once again, maybe two more times even. In addition, over these next six months, I am looking at branching out into several different areas to enhance my trading abilities. For example, I have an idea to create a fundamental economic matrix in Excel with weighted values on each different aspect, such as interest rates, GDP growth, etc. In addition, I am considering learning some coding to at least set up my own alerts. Also, I believe some mathematical/probability courses might be beneficial, but I don't really know where to start with that (I have done some college, no more than Calc 1 though). So far, a combination of fundamentals with technical appeals to me, although I would consider myself more of a technical trader. Do you guys have any recommendations for further education? More importantly, are my goals within my timeframe even possible?
So I’ve been practicing on a demo account for awhile in the forex market. I was at the point where I was trading without a stop loss but still cutting losses on my own. I was doing really good and profiting around 5,000 to 6,000 a month on a 25,000 dollar account. I was still reading the economic calendar on babypips but I got lazy on the general news and missed the trade talks going on, and see where I missed that now. I also got lazy and was trading on my phone but I remember two weeks ago looking at the the Aussie charts, thinking things were about to drop, I just kept going and was still trying to trade and that’s where I made a major screw up and realized that but I didn’t cut my losses but I also didn’t have a stop loss set. When I first started trading I was doing horrible setting a stop loss, that’s why I quit using it. Every time I set a ten pip loss I would lose it. I got to the point I don’t mind seeing trades dip below a certain point if I think the market is going to come back up. So is there any other places to teach you about stop losses and how to use it in a manor to my strategy and teach me about it better then babypips? I’ve used YouTube videos and reddit mostly to teach myself what I’ve learned from this point. I was kinda getting cocky and was thinking I was ready to put money into a real account and start going to work. I feel like this drop in the Aussie market is a wake up call that I need to teach myself to learn to use the stop loss because I if I would have set it I would have not blown up my account, and I haven’t done that in months... so back to the drawing board for me until I can learn this. Also where do most traders get there news? I got tired of CNN and FOX NEWS to the point I feel like it’s a circus show. Is there somewhere I can get news that isn’t ridiculous dramatized and is accurate?
First of all I'm new in the Forex (and I'm reading "babypips" :-). I'm trying to look into day-trading, but before opening even demo account I decided to experiment with some historical data. I found and downloaded 2 years of USD/CAD history of 1-minute candles. Then I wrote a simple script that opens a long position every minute (using open ASK price) and looks when it reaches either the target or stop-loss. The parameters of each trade:
$5000 own money;
average spread 2.3 pips;
stop loss: 2%;
spread risk: 0.5% (used for calculating leverage).
For calculating position parameters I'm using the following formulas:
With given parameters the used leverage is about 1:30. My testing on historical data shows that in average there're just 2 or 3 entry points in a day. I'm confused with my next steps, because I think it's not enough to create and test a working strategy. Should I decrease the target? Or increase leverage and risks? What are the usual targets and risks in the day trading? Thank you!
Improving Trading IQ - Strategy Tool Kits for Market Conditions
We had a single person voting in the poll of topics to be covered for followers, 6 up-votes. One voter. So in what can only be described as a very one way vote, we'll cover; 2 - Market conditions strategy tool kit overview Personally, I think the other one is much more interesting. It usually goes like this, "You seen that candle ... didn't you? Read that on Babypips, right? Hmmm hum. Here are 10 reasons that does not work." Strategy tool kit is easier to do, though. This is largely a consolidation post since I've already posted much of the material in other posts. When Right is Wrong You must understand that you can create spectacular strategies, and no matter how well you've done with them there will be times they will betray you. Firstly, the strategy can only deal with all the variables you have had the foresight and pragmatism to allow it to cope with. You can not account for everything, because you can not know everything. From moment to moment you have no idea what is going to happen in the market. You can prepare for what you're prepared. Nothing more. This is something that we do with everything. Not just trading strategies. We devise strategies based upon our experience to meet objectives and they work flawlessly as long as no critical aspect of the circumstances change. When you drive somewhere often, you know the strategy to get there fastest. When there are accidents blocking up the roads, this strategy fails. It remains overall a good strategy, but will betray you when critical variables change. We'll stick with the driving analogy for understanding this. Although accidents by their very nature happen unexpectedly, you can know certain conditions in which there are more accidents. On days like this, if it's important you get somewhere in time you can leave early to account for possible detours, you can check road reports and see if there is anything to be aware of. You may even find out before getting there the road is closed, and in that case you'll take an alternative route (deploying a contingency strategy). Since you know your strategy for doing this so well, you know the good and bad points of it. You know it's risk factors, and you know contingencies. When it comes to profiting in trading this is the part that is important. A part too often glossed over and neglected. See, anyone can know the best route ... but not everyone can avoid being stuck in a 4 hour pile up when they're late for (insert most important thing). I can post entire strategies, literally covering everything for you. Starting with things to do before even considering a trade, moving on the specific things needed to make a trade valid for watch list. Precise requirements when price meets "potential entry area". More precise requirements for confirming and placing orders. Specifically how to place stops and targets. Indeed, I already have posted this. This is a Sat Nav. It's reasonably effective, and sometimes it will tell you to take an immediate left while you're driving along a straight bridge. You have to understand all trading strategies do this, and the better you get at understanding market conditions the more you learn about that, the more it becomes common sense not to take a nose dive off a bridge. You can learn to be discerning. You can find filters. This plugs leaks in your profit/loss and makes you a better trader. Let's refer to the common trading mistakes setups. Here we can see in a more practical sense how this applies to trading strategies (and although this is a hypothetically mock up, I have shown in other posts very specific practical use of this. It is practical in this market condition). https://preview.redd.it/ugjxoydspni31.png?width=1330&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8954294729e022b33e3d247b4b1d225a6462f05 You can create a really good trend following strategy, have it profit for months and then have it lose everything in a losing streak. This can have a crushing feeling to it. A feeling you were never right, always stupid and back to square one. https://preview.redd.it/9n96mxihqni31.png?width=714&format=png&auto=webp&s=1483c0cac8d6fd76a832a30e7e91517e912f28ce Source: https://www.reddit.com/Forex/comments/ct5r1t/constructively_dealing_with_failure_doubts_and/ When you learn that this consolidation and spike low pattern warns us very clearly there can be strong counter trend action and you learn to wait for a 61.8% retracement before engaging this style of strategy again - your results go linear. I feel I've already extensively shown that the switch of one market condition to another is one that can be seen. I won't be going over that again. It's covered in multiple posts and most recently here. What I've presented in these setups is what happens in a trend. When the market is ranging for a long time, none of that works. Nothing. Everything I am teaching you with this stuff will lose money in a ranging market. So no matter how good you get at doing that, and no matter how well the strategy is designed; if part of that goodness and design does not involve sitting out of ranges ... got some bad news for you. We have trending markets now (really easy to make money) , and this is why I am talking about all this stuff now. I am not going to get into range trading strategies because it's largely redundant at this point. There will be some intra day ranges, but probably overall trends. It's best to take advantage of what is there. We're here to make money from the markets - I am, anyway - not just talk about ideas. I've already shared with you much of my "Strategy Tool Kit" to trade this broad move. I've explained how I look at things in the perspective of trending week, corrective week or ranging week. https://preview.redd.it/5f684gatsni31.png?width=1016&format=png&auto=webp&s=19b7eed5ae9ab4120a218f29feb55c2e8e06b41a I've explained in detail a template you can use for preparing trade plans going into these. https://www.reddit.com/Forex/comments/cuzm4f/planning_for_profit_things_to_now_to_trade_bette When following the trend, I've explained a common mistake people make when entering into corrections. I use the inverse of this mistake to follow a trend, entering at the end of corrections. https://preview.redd.it/xo0tnhpctni31.png?width=711&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ce1741d4583e5b2401949bda1b8d531931b7f35 When the market is in correction I use a rather standard pattern of entering into false trend continuation moves. I've shown this pattern and how it works in my "Strategy to make 50% -100% a year Trading One Day a Week" series. I've shown you how I look for certain conditions to occur when price is getting close to the level that I think the trend may start to really continue. https://preview.redd.it/4g98buo1uni31.png?width=726&format=png&auto=webp&s=934149affe2a25ec4dcb1eba76e64aecdce16d74 Source: https://www.reddit.com/Forex/comments/cv1hf4/preparing_for_the_impulse_gbpusd_traps_to_expect/ Also, if the analysis I have done suggests that there might be a big candle in the move, I've shown you how without caring about what the news events actually are, I can watch for indicators and design my position placement to trade the move even if it's "unexpected news". It's not unexpected to me. I started to plan three weeks ago. https://preview.redd.it/qmjur2tguni31.png?width=746&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4bc502f5b6275b3833672534a48b3bce4527439 From this level, there are a few things that can happen. 1 - 'Gasp' drop (the move I am positioning for) 2 - Steady and progressive trend to new lows (the move I'll adapt to position for as it happens if there's no gasp drop) 3 - Strong bullish breakout (I will flip my short term trend trading strategies and trade the other direction) So with this tool kit of strategies and this overview of the market from my analysis style, I've known from the start of the month what sort of trading I'd be wanting to do this month. I've shown progressively how I made an initial swing analysis on GBPUSD 3 weeks ago, and then from there have slotted in meta analysis and strategies to profit from the price swings. Source: https://www.reddit.com/Forex/comments/cv1hf4/preparing_for_the_impulse_gbpusd_traps_to_expect/ I've made forecasts of what I think wee'll see in the coming month, and I've also prepared contingency plans so if it turns out my strategies have told me to take the "Left turn" ... I at least know how to swim. Your greatest enemies in trading can be: Anxiety, confusion and reaction. There are many people to be philosophical about these things but the solid core fact is if you do not remove them, they ruin you. You lose money, or you go through mental hell. It can be easier to bounce back from losing money than the sustained stress of not being prepared and working things out "on the hop". The best way to deal with this is to understand your battlefield. You need to stop seeing things in overly broad senses based just on what the market is doing right now. Rather you want to be able to try to work out what the "mood" of the market will be in the coming trading sessions. If it is in that mood ... what will that look like, and what do you do when the market looks like that? There is no such thing as bad weather ... only the wrong choice of clothing.
Just finished Babypips.com's "school of pipsology" and I wanted to write a quick review of it and maybe process some of the information. Overall, I found it to be quite informative, easy to understand, and funny at times. I liked how it gives you a really good idea of how brokers work, how the markets are set up, and the underlying fundamentals behind it (without simply just saying something along the lines of "you basically just bet on what country you think will do better"). I think it also gives the reader a good understanding of proper risk management and how to properly execute a trading strategy. One of the most glaring drawbacks I kept running into was misspelled words/improper sentences/improper formatting. I know this may seem nitpicky but I often found myself questioning the validity of some of their ideas if they couldn't even be bothered to proofread their material before publishing it (call me a choosing beggar but I like my free education to be of quality!). I also had an issue with their oversimplification on some ideas, which ended up contradicting ideas discussed later on. Once again, I am for all intents and purposes, a noob, so babypips was my first real introduction into the world of forex (besides reading the book "naked forex" which I realized I should have read after babypips) so I figured I would give an honest review of the material. I now am at a point where I have a decent amount of theoretical knowledge and am ready to apply it, but am not sure which type of trading strategy I will use. I am looking for advice on where to go from here, which books to read next, etc.
In the trading business, you will need to study consistently. Sometimes, you must look for new trading strategies. Whereas sometimes, you may try to improve your errors in the trading plan. Either way, you need to spend a significant amount of time learning strategies and skills. Moreover, you must understand the market conditions too. With fundamental analysis, you must keep track of the price changes. Then when you will get an indication of a price change, technical analysis can be used to find appropriate entry spots for the trades. Aside from the market analysis, traders also do not have enough ideas about money management. So, consistent research on currency trading is necessary to develop your edge. Your Forex trading business may not provide big profit potential in the beginning but with an improved trading edge, you can manage it. And the most exciting thing is, profit potential will be consistent with an efficient trading strategy. This article is for motivating to the new Singaporean traders to spend time on appropriate research. With patience and concentration, any trader can develop an effective trading plan. So, focus on one is important to execute trades securely. After you have mastered a safe trading approach, increase the profit potential with an improved trading plan.
Improve the market analysis skills
To place any size trade, you need to understand the market condition. An effective process is to do the fundamental analysis first and then technical analysis. The fundamental influences help to identify the possible price trends. But you need to improve your skills to use valid news sources. If the information is not right and you are approaching a trade, it cannot manage a profit potential. So, rookie traders will need to time and research to improve the fundamental skills. Just focus on the news related to the price driving catalysts to predict the volatility. After the fundamental analysis, you also need to justify the market change with technical analysis skills. It is a calculative approach to justify the fundamental analysis. Moreover, you also get chances to position the trades properly. Using appropriate tools, you need to look for suitable retracement for the trades. The Fibonacci strategy is appropriate for this work. There are more important tools to be used for technical analysis. You need to learn about trend lines, pivot points, oscillators, indicators and chart patterns, etc. so, research and acquire knowledge on Forex market analysis.
Acquire knowledge about trading
There are more things needed for trading aside from the market analysis. If you just think of risk exposure, it will take months to develop a decent money management plan. Sometimes, rookie traders take a longer time than a month due to their negligence on risk exposure. To secure your trades from potential losses, it is important to manage the investment. You cannot trade with too big lots. According to the expert traders, a 2% risk per trade and a 1:10 leverage is enough to execute trades in Forex. After the money management, you need to focus on the profit targets. It must be set according to your trading method. If you choose 5R of profit while trading with scalping or day trading, majority of the trades will return potential losses. Big profit targets are for long term methods like the swing and the position trading process. If you do not research, our mind would not set the right profit target. So, you must spend a significant amount of time learning about currency trading.
Find appropriate entries and exits
With efficient market analysis, every trader must place the trades properly. It is another fact for a secured trading business aside from the money management. You need to scale the trades properly and find a solid trade setup. Without confirmation from the market analysis, you cannot place any trades. Your trading money will be unsecured if you place a random trade for a random signal. So, look for valid entry and exit points for the trades. Improve your skills with efficient market analysis strategies.
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